How to self-destruct a LUG

I was just reading the PLUG thread detailing the reaction to a topic presenter's use of Windows during a meeting. Old news, but it led to the nearly complete dissolution of the group. http://lists.csociety.org/pipermail/plug/2003-September/010064.html While I'm sure every group has their share of folks on either extreme of the pragmatist / purist spectrum, I hope PLUG's lesson is one we never have to learn the hard way here at CINLUG. - T.

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Re:How to self-destruct a LUG

I still use XP Pro at home for work related activities. I have to for things like netmeeting and such. Our corp intranet site doesn't support Firefox so I really have no choice.

I have only been learning Linux for about a year and half but I'm a quick study and convert. :D I'm actually part of the testing group for Damn Small Linux now. DSL is my main distro. I run it in frugal mode on an old Toshiba lappy and have a couple poorman installs (one fpr mydsl development and one with xfree and nvidia) on my main box along with XP Pro and Mepis booting with Grub. I run DSL on my 256mb pendrive most of the time. I have a 5way DSL on a 512mb pendrive so I can boot to it or run it embedded in windows with Qemu.

I have another box with Ubuntu and the beginnings of a gentoo stage 1 install for learning purposes (so far so good!).

BTW - Anyone going to Linuxworld in San Fran later this year? I am going to meet up with the Damn Small developers. Warren Wolford from Mepis is also supposed to have a booth at the expo. Just curious if anyone else local is going.

Chris

Re:How to self-destruct a LUG

I completely agree. I don't speak badly of Windows to people, but I do speak positively about Linux and its benefits. Usually this sparks their curiousity, allowing me to provide a lot of other enticing information. I can't say I've ever "converted" anyone from Windows, but I've never consciously tried (and I think 'trying' is the wrong approach).

For the record, I have a copy of XP (that I got as a student for $10) that I use on rare occasions. Mostly, it runs Stanford U's [url=http://folding.stanford.edu]Folding@Home[/url] software (all my boxes do), and my laser printer. My wife uses our Mac (running OS X 10.2) and I have 2 boxes at home running Debian Sarge. My work computer is a spare of mine and it's running Kubuntu (for now, and maybe for some time... it's really no worse than regular Debian, though bugs are more noticeable... a recent apt-get update caused kde-libs to conflict with another piece of software, and it wiped out my login settings, desktop and kicker/toolbar).

Anyway... people should use what works for them, but know how to use Windows. It will be with the world for some time to come.

- T.

Re:How to self-destruct a LUG

I think we should focus on advocacy rather than looking down on people for using other technologies. Causing an uproar because someone uses different software than you isn't going to make them switch to your favorite software. By focusing on the interesting aspects of a given piece of software and advocating its use, we leave the decision up to the individuals rather than trying to ram a particular view down their throats.

Antagonistic zealots often do more harm than they realize.

Re: How to self-destruct a LUG

I have to admit it. I use Windows too. I have a dual boot laptop, and my wife likes Windows. We use it at work. I doubt unless I get a job with Novell that I'll ever have a Linux desktop at the office other than our development machines. I've used Windows to present Cygwin...but that is required. I'm far from a purist, but I do chose open source whenever possible. Even "open source" for windows. I'd like to see what percentage everyone uses Linux on this forum. I use it Linux/Windows about 50/50. I have a linux PC and a windows PC at home. I have a dual boot laptop and an old laptop with damn small linux on it. I have a Zaurus PDA running linux, and I have an Apple iPod. At work I have a linux PC and a windows PC on my desk.

Re: How to self-destruct a LUG

[quote="tlyons"]I was just reading the PLUG thread detailing the reaction to a topic presenter's use of Windows during a meeting. Old news, but it led to the nearly complete dissolution of the group.

http://lists.csociety.org/pipermail/plug/2003-September/010064.html

While I'm sure every group has their share of folks on either extreme of the pragmatist / purist spectrum, I hope PLUG's lesson is one we never have to learn the hard way here at CINLUG.

- T.[/quote]

Me too - we can learn a lot from other groups - both helpful tips and things to avoid.